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  • Somewhat familiar
    Expert 8
    I've worked with various biomarkers, but mostly limited to nutritional exposure assessment
  • Somewhat familiar
    Expert 3
    I am familiar with the magnitudes of between- and within-person variability for a few selected exposures, such as manganese, TCE, HCHO, and PAHs. 
  • Very familiar
    Expert 5
    I've taught courses in exposure measurement error and effects on power and bias etc. in PhD level and other groups.   I've studied this in field settings (pesticide exposure) using urine samples (spot samples, 24 hour etc.), and also studied the effects of urine dilution correction (SG and creatinine).
  • Very familiar
    Expert 4
    Have been working in a very similar topic for several years, which is about measurements of habitual physical activity level and sleep. 
  • Very familiar
    Expert 6
    I am more familiar with clustering (within-person correlation) of outcomes in cluster-randomized trials and with clustered measurements due to small numbers of observers who measure the outcomes, but the statistical principles are the same.
  • Somewhat familiar
    Expert 7
    Non-persistent chemicals generally exhibit higher within-person variability, while persistent chemicals tend to show greater between-person variability.
  • Somewhat familiar
    Expert 1
    Variability of between person and within person is commonly measured in many types of epidemiological studies, including meta-analysis which compares the between study and within study variability. The magnitude of the variability is important in determining the the stability of the biomarker being measured over time.
  • Not very familiar
    Expert 9
    I'm familiar with the concept, but not the actual values of between- and within-person variability in exposure biomarkers.  Plus of course, the actual values would vary between different exposure compounds, their half-lives and metabolic products, and sampling media (e.g. blood, urine, saliva).
  • Somewhat familiar
    Expert 2
    I have been responsible for or involved in numerous environmental epidemiology studies focused on environmental risk factors, including heavy metals, pesticides, and air pollutants. Some of these studies utilized longitudinal designs with repeated measurements of exposures. In these studies, we employed advanced statistical techniques, such as mixed-effects models and Generalized Estimating Equations (GEE), to account for both between- and within-person variability as well as clustering effects in exposure data. 

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Expert 3
09/08/2024 15:27
The experts' answers on this panel demonstrate a strong understanding of between- and within-person variability, as well as the advanced statistical analyses used to assess these variabilities. Based on the comments, it seems that some experts may not focus as much on the exact numerical values (e.g., Expert 9). Perhaps the question was somewhat ambiguous, and experts may not have explicitly addressed it.  In my work, there also seems to be a greater emphasis on the ratio of between- to within-person variability rather than the absolute values.  The ratio is often more important than the absolute values—e.g., when within-person variability exceeds between-person variability, it suggests the need for more repeats instead of more subjects. This could be similar to recognizing the significance of a study without necessarily recalling the exact p-value. 
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Expert 5
09/11/2024 11:30
Expert 3 makes a good point about the ratio of between/within variation (generally the ICC-intraclass correlation).
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Expert 8
09/12/2024 14:42
 It seems the question was interpreted somewhat differently by the different experts. Rereading it, I would also interpret it as referring to numerical magnitudes of variability. But expert 3 also makes an interesting point that ratios may be more important than absolute values. 
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